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    If you voted for President Obama, you are not a Christian




    If you voted for President Obama, you are not a Christian according to the Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson who heads the BrotherhoodOrganization Of A New Density organization. He made the statement during a radio interview on December 12, 2012 on Redding News Review The Show, which is hosted by Rob Redding.
    Redding interviewed Peterson about his belief that Blacks are now fully invested in this huge boondoggle of President Obama being “the messiah.” All of this is based on a joke that was told by actor/comedian Foxx who said: “Thank God, our Lord and savior, Barack Obama,” during the most recent Soul Train Awards.
    Now the audience laughed and cheered like most audiences do at such satirical displays, but apparently Peterson was not amused, and he took Foxx’s words seriously, as he said: “95 percent of Black Americans worship him (President Obama) as if he’s the messiah—why?” Peterson described Obama as “the most divisive man to ever occupy the White House,” and he even suggested that Black people would have been better off supporting a decent man like Herman Cain instead. He even attacked First Lady Michelle Obama by referring to her as “Big Momma Michelle Obama” accusing her of pushing a deceptive diet plan on the public, while she eats privately like a ravenous animal.
    So as the show went on, Redding opened the phone lines and allowed callers to challenge Peterson, and many of them did. And as multiple callers went after Peterson’s propaganda, his one and only defense was that anyone who voted for "the messiah" President Obama is not a Christian, because Obama supports gay marriage and abortion through his political views.
    So on a serious note let’s examine this. Point number one; politics and religion are two totally different things, and if your vote in a presidential election is going to be the deciding factor
    or even one of the deciding factors in your afterlife trail, then you might as well not vote at all, because there are no clean politicians.

    Point number two; does this apply to mayors and governors too, because the ungodly corruption does not stop at the end of the driveway of the White House or at the doorsteps of Congress? Is God really going to pull up your voting records at the pearly gates? Seriously, if your presidential vote is enough to damn you to the pits of Hell, we’re all doomed!
    Point number three; President Obama is certainly not the first or the only president that has ever held what some will consider to be anti-Christian views. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and otherpresidents owned slaves. But more importantly, how many lives were snuffed out based on the political views of such presidents as Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, George W. Bush, Washington, Jefferson and others?
    Point number four; and then there is Abraham Lincoln, who oversaw the deaths of thousands during the Civil War based on political views. If God can’t handle abortion or gay marriage, then the atrocities of wars like the Civil War must be completely unbearable. For that matter, Harry S. Truman watched the atomicbomb drop on Japan destroying countless lives. Maybe Peterson should question how Christians voted for some of these presidents.
    And point number five; let’s take the predicament of Abraham Lincoln regarding the issue of slavery. Which vote would have been more Christian? Would it have been to vote for the Lincoln that decided not to go to war with the Confederacy, because he didn’t want to neglect Christian values, while he looked the other way as slavery continued on possibly for another 100 years, which would have still been a neglect of true Christian values?
    Or, would it have been to vote for the Lincoln that decided to wage the Civil War despite the horrid consequences of such an action to finally end the issue of human slavery in America? Which vote would a true Christian make based on that scenario, because either way injustices were going to be inflicted, and lives were going to be decimated?
    Maybe Rev. Peterson can answer that question. But just in case he can’t answer it, consider this. If Lincoln hadn’t decided to do what was necessary to preserve the Union and not the Bible, Peterson might still be in the cotton fields with me. This is why politics and religion rarely ever see eye to eye, and ignoring that reality is a mistake that people have been doomed to repeat since day one.
    Peterson’s words are nothing more than the baseless smoke of a fear mongering, self-hating, ignorance connoisseur. If so-called Christians can listen to his compost and still make into Heaven, these so-called Christians should be able to vote for President Obama and still get in as well, and that’s not because he is "the messiah." It’s because he is an effective politician.
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    I did not vote for Obama and I'm also not a christian. I'm not muslim either and truth be told I've been Anti-Theist for going on 15 years now.

    Morals don't come from any belief other than believing in doing whats right for your fellow man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Ramsey View Post
    I did not vote for Obama and I'm also not a christian. I'm not muslim either and truth be told I've been Anti-Theist for going on 15 years now.

    Morals don't come from any belief other than believing in doing whats right for your fellow man.
    The Bible is a good place to start looking for moral standards and what would be right treatment for your fellow man. Even if you don't profess to be a Christian it wouldn't hurt to check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    The Bible is a good place to start looking for moral standards and what would be right treatment for your fellow man. Even if you don't profess to be a Christian it wouldn't hurt to check it out.
    Most everyone that helped found our great nation, was a believer of God in one form or another, and it was not till complete non-believers became a vocal force in society, that this great nation began to decline.

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    I am now an Independent. I am not a Democrat and I left the Republican party after 40+ years for statements just like the opening remark on this post. When the requirements to be a Christian became a Republican Party membership instead of the belief in Jesus Christ I realized that it was not the party I had originally joined. I don't have to be a member of any political party to be a Christian and a self-made preacher from a non-denominational organization doesn't get to decide whether I am going to heaven or not.

    I am not a socialist nor am I a flunky for rich old men. I, like many Christian Americans, no longer have any representation in government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wjh2657 View Post
    I am not a socialist nor am I a flunky for rich old men. I, like many Christian Americans, no longer have any representation in government.
    Ain't it the truth!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjh2657 View Post
    I am now an Independent. I am not a Democrat and I left the Republican party after 40+ years for statements just like the opening remark on this post. When the requirements to be a Christian became a Republican Party membership instead of the belief in Jesus Christ I realized that it was not the party I had originally joined. I don't have to be a member of any political party to be a Christian and a self-made preacher from a non-denominational organization doesn't get to decide whether I am going to heaven or not.

    I am not a socialist nor am I a flunky for rich old men. I, like many Christian Americans, no longer have any representation in government.
    Though I know that there are some devout Christians in the US Government, I really don't feel that we as Christians have any representation anymore. It isn't evident that we do anyway.

    As far as being a Christian and voting for Obama, I haven't found yet in the Bible where stupidity prevents salvation. Convincing others that Obama is some kind of messiah probably does fall under several criteria though.
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    You shouldn't have voted for Obama if you...

    ...are willing to work for what you have. Why? Because Obama thinks you should give up what you have to those who refuse to work for anything.

    ...are a Christian. Why? Because your president shouldn't be fooling you or anyone else about his alliances with radical Islam. He is after all, a muslim. Contrary to what many have been fooled in to thinking, that 20 years or what ever he and his racist wife spent in Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church of race based hate, doesn't convince me of them being Christian.

    ...are a patriotic American. Why? Because Obama wants the American dream to fail. He is a socialist, his minions are socialist, and socialism is un-American. Make no mistake... there is no compromise on that fact. If socialism is allowed to thrive, there is no America.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gejoslin View Post
    If you voted for President Obama, you are not a Christian




    If you voted for President Obama, you are not a Christian according to the Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson who heads the BrotherhoodOrganization Of A New Density organization. He made the statement during a radio interview on December 12, 2012 on Redding News Review The Show, which is hosted by Rob Redding.
    Redding interviewed Peterson about his belief that Blacks are now fully invested in this huge boondoggle of President Obama being “the messiah.” All of this is based on a joke that was told by actor/comedian Foxx who said: “Thank God, our Lord and savior, Barack Obama,” during the most recent Soul Train Awards.
    Now the audience laughed and cheered like most audiences do at such satirical displays, but apparently Peterson was not amused, and he took Foxx’s words seriously, as he said: “95 percent of Black Americans worship him (President Obama) as if he’s the messiah—why?” Peterson described Obama as “the most divisive man to ever occupy the White House,” and he even suggested that Black people would have been better off supporting a decent man like Herman Cain instead. He even attacked First Lady Michelle Obama by referring to her as “Big Momma Michelle Obama” accusing her of pushing a deceptive diet plan on the public, while she eats privately like a ravenous animal.
    So as the show went on, Redding opened the phone lines and allowed callers to challenge Peterson, and many of them did. And as multiple callers went after Peterson’s propaganda, his one and only defense was that anyone who voted for "the messiah" President Obama is not a Christian, because Obama supports gay marriage and abortion through his political views.
    So on a serious note let’s examine this. Point number one; politics and religion are two totally different things, and if your vote in a presidential election is going to be the deciding factor
    or even one of the deciding factors in your afterlife trail, then you might as well not vote at all, because there are no clean politicians.

    Point number two; does this apply to mayors and governors too, because the ungodly corruption does not stop at the end of the driveway of the White House or at the doorsteps of Congress? Is God really going to pull up your voting records at the pearly gates? Seriously, if your presidential vote is enough to damn you to the pits of Hell, we’re all doomed!
    Point number three; President Obama is certainly not the first or the only president that has ever held what some will consider to be anti-Christian views. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and otherpresidents owned slaves. But more importantly, how many lives were snuffed out based on the political views of such presidents as Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, George W. Bush, Washington, Jefferson and others?
    Point number four; and then there is Abraham Lincoln, who oversaw the deaths of thousands during the Civil War based on political views. If God can’t handle abortion or gay marriage, then the atrocities of wars like the Civil War must be completely unbearable. For that matter, Harry S. Truman watched the atomicbomb drop on Japan destroying countless lives. Maybe Peterson should question how Christians voted for some of these presidents.
    And point number five; let’s take the predicament of Abraham Lincoln regarding the issue of slavery. Which vote would have been more Christian? Would it have been to vote for the Lincoln that decided not to go to war with the Confederacy, because he didn’t want to neglect Christian values, while he looked the other way as slavery continued on possibly for another 100 years, which would have still been a neglect of true Christian values?
    Or, would it have been to vote for the Lincoln that decided to wage the Civil War despite the horrid consequences of such an action to finally end the issue of human slavery in America? Which vote would a true Christian make based on that scenario, because either way injustices were going to be inflicted, and lives were going to be decimated?
    Maybe Rev. Peterson can answer that question. But just in case he can’t answer it, consider this. If Lincoln hadn’t decided to do what was necessary to preserve the Union and not the Bible, Peterson might still be in the cotton fields with me. This is why politics and religion rarely ever see eye to eye, and ignoring that reality is a mistake that people have been doomed to repeat since day one.
    Peterson’s words are nothing more than the baseless smoke of a fear mongering, self-hating, ignorance connoisseur. If so-called Christians can listen to his compost and still make into Heaven, these so-called Christians should be able to vote for President Obama and still get in as well, and that’s not because he is "the messiah." It’s because he is an effective politician.

    Times are too dire for pastel and form over substance.
    Jesse Lee Peterson is a bright light speaking to a coliseum of roaches, rats and parasites.
    If blacks have a chance at all of being deprogrammed from pure and cultivated Marxism, it will take wise blacks to do it.
    Another prolific black man, Rev. James David Manning, speaks with old fashioned truth, non-pastel, the kind of truth it will take to save this country.
    Many conservative fence-straddlers, neo-pharisees, criticize the Obama regime with big thick cotton gloves, clueless to the severity of what he [Obama] really represents.


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    The definition of "Christian" is set forth in the Word of God not in the eyes and mind of man. The Word of God was given to man to examine himself and not to judge others. Concerning the Bible, Paul Harvey once said that even if you took the divine inspiration out of the Bible it would still be the single most comprehensive book for man to live buy. As far as presidential candidates, I simply have to vote for the person who seemingly supports the values I expect of myself.
    I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me

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